Ryan shared wisdom from his latest book, How to Work with Complicated People, but our conversation quickly turned to fear, faith, and what it looks like to take a step before you feel ready. 

We talked about stepping outside our comfort zones, the goal of difficult conversations, and how relationships change when we prioritize connection over agreement. 

One thing Ryan said that has stuck with me is this: “You can't get better if you don't get started.”

If you've been waiting for the right time to take a step of faith, I think this conversation will give you the courage to move.